We need to start talking about how we're gonna get off Instagram and Meta. Ft. Maddy Kelly
Summary
Maddy Kelly thinks it's time to get off Instagram and Meta, and Kareem's right there with her. The problem? "There has to be a way for you to find out who got engaged from your high school without electing Donald Trump twice." Kelly, who started on Instagram at 17 posting pictures of braids she did, argues the movement needs to start at dinner parties, talking in real life. She compares it to moving apartments when your landlord lets Russian propagandists into your spare bedroom. Kareem points out the brutal irony: last month he got 5 million hits and Meta paid him $5. Not even enough for a New York cappuccino. They disagree on whether TikTok counts as moving, and Kelly blames boomers for ruining Instagram's vibe, though Kareem calls that a copout. The real issue is collective action. Nobody wants to lose their followers.
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So, what's your take? We need to start talking about how we're going to get off Instagram and met up.
100% agree. I mean, it is time. We got to have the talk. There has to be a way for you to find out who got engaged from your high school without electing Donald Trump twice. The great irony, of course, is that the movement is going to have to start on the platform itself, which is very ironic in our generation. We don't like anything ironic. And it kind of hearkens back to like, remember when we were on Facebook and people used to write like, "You do not have consent to use my photos."
I remember that. That was useless. Of course, that was fake. Well, you could start #GetOffInstagram and then put it on your Instagram profile.
I'm kind of thinking it's like dinner parties, you know, like you're hanging out in real life. And we talk about it.
I do stand up and I have asked crowds, do you want to get off this? And they always say yes. But it has to be a collective choice cuz it's too much of an advantage as an individual. You know, no one wants to lose your followers. I started when I was 17 years old. I was taking pictures of girls' braids I did in their hair.
So, you think the solution is to just... Let's move.
Let's talk about how we're going to move. Moving sucks. It's a bad thing, right? You don't want to move apartments, but if your landlord lets a bunch of like Russian propagandists move into your spare bedroom, you might have to post on your Instagram story and say you need a new apartment. But we tried moving.
Did we? To TikTok.
No, we didn't move to TikTok. TikTok is a totally different type of app, okay? TikTok never promised that it would keep you connected with the people you know. Far from it. TikTok was like, "This is a guy you'll never see. You'll never see again." And look at him put a bunch of whipped cream in his cross and then put his foot in. [laughter]
I like that stuff. The irony to me is that we did do this because we stopped using Facebook after the 2016 election. And then we went to Instagram.
Yeah. Here's what I think. I think that boomers have ruined it.
You're being a bit of a copout artist. No, I'm not. I'm saying Instagram was chill and cool and fine until the boomers showed up and then they started posting #DonaldTrump.
You and I work for Meta for free. I had a good month last month, okay? Virality-wise, I got 5 million hits in a month. And how much money did you make?
They gave me $5. Hey, you get a cappuccino. I can't get a cappuccino. I live in New York. [laughter]