Julian Casablancas Defends His 4 Most Controversial Takes

You should check out my manifesto. Usually when a white guy has a manifesto, it's not good.

Okay, let's wear cool leather jackets and fight them. It's like, and I'm alone with you.

They take dogs DNA and then if they find poop, they like test it and they give you a fine.

If you imagine me naked, this will be very simple. My career is over. Goodbye.

So, what's your take? Um, I'm going to say please.

Stand clear of the closing doors. No. Uh, please um stop with the long audio text messages.

100% disagree.

You're one of those people. I send. I send them all the time.

I don't watch your stream of consciousness, man. I have things to say.

Hey, I'm driving. I'm just uh wondering. Uh yeah. Wait, hold on a second. I got to uh turning left.

Someone left a 19 minute message the other day. That is rude. It's like you're trying to slip your Trojan horsing voicemail into the text world.

I understand that. But voicemails have gone by by the way of the metro card. Yes, because no one makes phone calls anymore.

That's what I'm saying. But what if you're a guy who misses a phone? Would you rather have me just call you and say, "Hey, Juling my phone." Worst part of a phone call and a text message combined is the is the message. The like yeah. The long ass talking rambling.

You got any uh Arab relatives or African relatives? I mean genetically. Yes.

Cuz brown people. I find brown people are very into the voice note. Like you should see my WhatsApp my family WhatsApp. Short is fine. Like you know get to the point. Little song little like 10 second. That's rare.

10 seconds. Way too short. Like I think I think the rule should be up to a minute of information. That's okay. That's pretty long.

You think that's long? Yeah.

You don't want to hear my sweet, sweet, buttery voice? I mean, this is why I don't know. Do a lot of people ghost you. Do people ghost you?

Probably not. You're too. You're too famous.

You're in your prime right now.

You're ghosting people. That's sad. Let's be honest.

If I'm in my prime right now, that means that there's no way. It's like it's great. Enjoy it. No. Well, it's going to be your prime forever. Just always tell yourself that.

That's good advice. Is that what do what do you think uh the secret to some longevity is? Cuz you you I I hate to say, "Oh, you're a cool guy, but you are." And you've been cool for a long time. And you just be yourself. Is that the classic? That's I don't know. I mean, I'm pretty overanalytical and uh try to like be a self-hater. So, I don't know. I think yeah. Uh prepare, work, try to do cool things, be a good person, not trying to just like get success or quick thing. I don't know that kind of vibe.

Don't try to go artistically. Well, I don't know. I don't know how to be popular in this day and age. I'm just saying in terms of like a creative career. You you pursue what you find interesting.

Well, it's like a 50 yeah. Something that I think is good or has a inspiring value positive impact on society on people who are in society. Yes. So yes to say I want to impact society sounds weird.

So you are a little bit an overanalytical. Yeah, a little bit. Devil is in the. God is in the. They're both in the details. They are.

I'm not a nitpicker. I let it. I let it cook as the kids say cuz yeah. You got to do it every day. Yeah, I come out of my cave like every 4 years and like here's some things I did and I sing and dance and then I go back to work in my.

Coming out of my cave and I've been doing just fine. I know.

Why don't we turn the uh turn the dial up a bit?

Turn the volume up a bit. A bit or all the way?

Let's just do a bit. A little bit.

Yeah, turn it up a little bit. We got. We got. We had a warm take. Okay. I mean, modern cars are just kind of the worst.

100% agree. Aesthetically, everything is ugly. Even technologically, I feel like, you know, temperature, radio, you ever try to like open the back right window like that much or that much? It's impossible. You miss analog buttons.

Even early electric was fine, but now. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to do this.

I mean, but that's yeah, I think yeah, but I like this. That's 80s though.

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't want to do this. I want to do this. But like it's too hard to like hold it for like 3 seconds. You got to like just touch it once. I mean.

Oh, yeah. That yeah. Now, nowadays, if you want to crack it, you're just like spending. You're actually spending longer to keep it open that much for all the time that it was short to just open it all the way. How often do you want to on the highway just open it all the [__] way?

Never, cuz then you get the. And you like people like calling you like everyone in the car like the music stops the name the mysterious who's that it's weird the texts are popping up on screen distraction ping ping ping it's embarrassing even if it's like your mom saying hi just like it's it feels like something weird and dramatic. What's your favorite old car?

I I kind of like a [__] with a Buick LeSabre. I used to own one of those. What year?

Uh 94. It's like Star Trek. Was it cream that color?

It was like the outside or red honey wagon we used to call it. It was like beige champagne beige. Yeah. Luxurious interior. It's huge.

It like looks kind of ugly cuz it's this weird bubble, but inside it's like the Jetsons. I love a Buick Saber. And I also like the 1998 Dodge Caravan with the sliding door. One side only minivan.

But they used to call those a truck. All right, so they're the carake. Give me some more.

Okay, so this is so boring, but I really think conservatives and progressives need to come together, do a non-corporate consensus populist party to join to fight the real billionaire gang agenda villains. And you know, we can fight about abortion and guns later, but let's just focus on, you know, no corruption and democracy and. Yeah.

Class. Class.

Okay. It's a class thing. The war of all against.

Oh, I thought you were saying like, ooh, like a Euro class. Yeah. I think what you're describing is the fact that at this point the two party system has got us confused fighting each other when what should be happening is that the people the working class people should be essentially having an uprising or revolting against the rich. Maybe not the rich but the at least the ultra rich. Is that right? See that. That's why it's it's hard for a take cuz it's probably a little more nuanced than that. But yes, I see what you're saying. Obviously it's not left and right. It's top versus bottom. I just think people should be able to be rich without harming people if you just they you need basically separation of uh you know private wealth and public state power. So like you know if you want to be a billionaire the only influence you can have is voting you know but you can't deceive people or you know own newspaper you know like I'm just saying like there needs to be like a yes like a like rich people banished from politics but it's not like just fighting rich against poor cuz that's we've done that that hasn't worked and it brought us like Napoleons and [__].

I think that people are just confused cuz they don't know what they're fighting about anymore. Corporate news is the other thing. You got to like stop watching that.

Corporate news. Yeah.

I think corporate news is the worst thing that's happened to. That's what I'm saying.

Society. Well, that's the problem. The indoctrination is so crazy like to get to the point where you can like shake someone out of fantasy concepts.

But all all information right now is [__] cuz number one, there's too much. Number two, half of it is genuinely at this point like I'm and I'm like a digital native like internet guy. Sometimes I'm tricked by AI which is re.